. >> you deal with making the environment cleaner and better from a government's he perspective. how do you attract businesses and money and private investment into climate change and protecting the environment? >> well, i think they need certainty. what i hear from businesses is -- i've been doing this almost 23 years. we need certainty. we want to invest or money, but we want to know the rules aren't going to change. if carbon pollution is a bad thing, which we know we need to control it, that i'm not going to be disadvantaged because i'm clean. in fact, it would be great if i'm advantaged, but don't put me on a playing field that makes it harder for me to compete. i think what we have to do, we find businesses all over the country cutting their energy use, cutting their water use, increasing their profits by doing it. we have to lift them up, because they can show the way for other businesses that might be too small or too busy to realize the opportunities are there. >> what's your plan for the second term? are you sticking around? >> you know what? what i can say is i'm very